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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:56 pm 
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Good point.

Maybe "We trust nothing and nobody" would be a better motto.
I doubt the other Nato members would approve.


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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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ahhh forget NATO. Let's start over with coins that say "MADE IN THE USA"

instead of offending people who are atheists it will offend those factories in China that make everything you can find in Wal Mart

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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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Lazarus wrote:
Maybe "We trust nothing and nobody" would be a better motto.
I doubt the other Nato members would approve.


This.

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The ironic part will be that the US Mint has been transferred to Beijing.


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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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Lazarus wrote:
Good point.

Maybe "We trust nothing and nobody" would be a better motto.
I doubt the other Nato members would approve.


I like the motto the founding fathers chose: E pluribus unum. Out of many, one.

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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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Lazarus wrote:
Good point.

Maybe "We trust nothing and nobody" would be a better motto.
I doubt the other Nato members would approve.


I like the motto the founding fathers chose: E pluribus unum. Out of many, one.


I think that's already on there though isn't it

on the quarters

I would check but I've only got a nickel and three pennies in my wallet atm

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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:12 am 
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While it does technically violate separation of church and state I wouldn't mind just leave it because of the historical significance. It doesn't really matter to me but it probably should get removed eventually. Its one of the remains from times in which society tended to blend state and church even though its supposed to be a secular government.


separation of church and state is a myth. Our forefathers prayed in chambers before doing business. This is not a secular gov't..however the constitution says:
http://www.hescominsoon.com/?p=866

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This means the federal gov't cannot have an official religion..aka the church of england..but that the gov't is not supposed to restrict religion..which is what is going on left and right by the removal of various religious displays across this nation. Our forefathers were hardly secularists.


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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:15 am 
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In order to answer the constitutional aspect of this question, we need to ask wether printing "God" on currency constitutes an establishment of religion. Personally, I think it does, because America's citizens are being taxed to fund the dissimination of a message with a clear religious purpose. The only way to argue otherwise is if you can say the message "In God We Trust" has a secular purpose, and the only argument to that affect I've heard, the historical significance of our national motto, is unconvincing because it didn't become our motto until the 1950s.


is congress supporting an establishment of religion

I guess if you're an atheist, your religion is threatened, but we're really reaching here

EDIT: Wow, haha, I just called atheism a religion. my bad

atheism is a religion..the religion of NOT believing. You have to excersise concious thought to be an atheist..just like you have to excercise concious thought to be christian, muslim..etc etc.

Fron dictionary.com:
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.


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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:16 am 
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Really.

Explain to me how this was supposed to be a God fearing nation and how the Founding Fathers were all Christian.


Read the Constitution AND also read the declaration of independence as well as the magna carta. Should be all you need right there.


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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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*sigh*

I'm referring to....

Bah, nevermind. I'm not going to explain my questionably zany jokes....

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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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It's funny, because the Magna Carta is a British document and has no bearing on the religion of the Founders or the religion of this nation at all!

Wait, that's not funny.

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 Post subject: Re: Should In God We Trust be removed from currency?
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